Why can't the dead fight in the Power Multiverse tournament?

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Why can't the dead fight in the Power Multiverse tournament?; I have 3 reason why they should be able to fight!
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Kblo247	Feb 14 2017, 12:15 AM Post #16
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Ssj3vegito96 Feb 13 2017, 11:30 PM Wait what are you guys talking about? Pikkon and olibu aren't canon? They appeared in dbz Kai though. The other world tournament wasn't shown in Kai but we saw them in the buu saga filler where kid buu appeared in heaven and krillin and Yamcha fought him. Doesn't that count for something? Let me clarify as you are correct. In Z Pikkon and Olibu were the 1 and 2 of Other World before Goku came. Goku passed them by. And when Buu happened they hot shot Krillin and Yamcha there as Plan B to the Grand Kai world. Krillin is the strongest there is and he outright laughs at Yamcha toying with Olibu. In Kai, there is no other world tourney. Goku has never even met all the other Kais as they make a point with the whole weight training and the kai of the south saying he's heard about Goku, as opposed to knowing him already. Likewise there is no reference to Pikkon being able to one shot Cell like he did. Olibu and Pikkon are both there and yet Krillin and Yamcha are still skipped straight to the world of the Grand Kai as plan B. Pikkon and Olibu in Kai don't even have the sack to trash talk Kid Buu, as Krillin attacks him to try and save them all. So yeah once again Pikkon's whole existence says he's inferior to Krillin in the toei books. Even the reference of Pikkon fighting Broly in the movies doesn't matter as Krillin faces Broly 3x ... Plus Pikkon like Olibu and even Hit are ancient compared to the main cast outside Roshi whop gains their powers much quicker Edited by Kblo247, Feb 14 2017, 12:17 AM.



+ Ssj3vegito96	Feb 14 2017, 01:40 AM Post #17
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	So would you say krillin and Yamcha aren't haxed in Kai?
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Amerson26	Feb 14 2017, 02:06 AM Post #18
Posts: 1,872 Group: Member Member #12,191 Joined: March 29, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime dragon ball z What Browser do you use? dragon ball z Favourite Manga dragon ball z	Bottom line every strong dead fighter in every other universe should be able to used they dead hero if they exist depends on. Catch my drift



Kblo247	Feb 14 2017, 08:27 AM Post #19
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	@Vegito - I would say Pikkon and Olibu are nerfed without the other world tournament and Hell filler there to promote their powers as rivaling or bettering Goku when he first died. All we know is Krillin and Yamcha are the class of other world taking their spots, and as a result Buu finds them looking for Goku and Vegeta while they spar Amerson26 Feb 14 2017, 02:06 AM Bottom line every strong dead fighter in every other universe should be able to used they dead hero if they exist depends on. Catch my drift You have no drift, point or bottom line. Aside from Cell who should be wished back? Frieza hates the saiyans so helping them to live is stupid as is going back to hell where he is tormented, so total erasing works for him. Dabura was sent to heaven as punishment and he's about all that is left on the power scale. Oliibu and Pikkon aren't at Krillin level in Kai continuity. And every other villain is fodder. So who besides Cell should be brought back, and why would 17/18 work with Cell when they can simply train to use their natural ki to rival him? There is nothing that even says these other universes can wish anyone or bring anyone back from an after life since the wish orbs are only contained in Uni7 and theee Super ones in Uni6. There is nothing that's says powerful warriors are even dead in these other universes where there have been no planet trade, Buu unsealing, and Cell games. So yeah you have no drift or point, no actual basis for what you are saying. If Krillin can run past his old limits with a forest visit, then others can surpass theirs. Roshi has a suit Goku calls heavy. 17 is shown using human ki. Gohan has Mystic powers Old Kai awoke for him and as a hybrid ssj rage is possible. Vegeta showed he could raise his level like that in the black arc with Dendes Time Chamber. Goku has kaioken. Tien will likely pull tribesmen out his butt and we know Piccolo can fight base Gohan evenly whih he couldn't when Tagoma came. Buu is Buu as we see him smiling and able to speak full sentences now. Plus they still have Whis to train them be it in his chamber or the staff. Edited by Kblo247, Feb 14 2017, 08:31 AM.



Amerson26	Feb 14 2017, 09:05 AM Post #20
Posts: 1,872 Group: Member Member #12,191 Joined: March 29, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime dragon ball z What Browser do you use? dragon ball z Favourite Manga dragon ball z	Kblo247 Feb 14 2017, 08:27 AM @Vegito - I would say Pikkon and Olibu are nerfed without the other world tournament and Hell filler there to promote their powers as rivaling or bettering Goku when he first died. All we know is Krillin and Yamcha are the class of other world taking their spots, and as a result Buu finds them looking for Goku and Vegeta while they spar Amerson26 Feb 14 2017, 02:06 AM Bottom line every strong dead fighter in every other universe should be able to used they dead hero if they exist depends on. Catch my drift You have no drift, point or bottom line. Aside from Cell who should be wished back? Frieza hates the saiyans so helping them to live is stupid as is going back to hell where he is tormented, so total erasing works for him. Dabura was sent to heaven as punishment and he's about all that is left on the power scale. Oliibu and Pikkon aren't at Krillin level in Kai continuity. And every other villain is fodder. So who besides Cell should be brought back, and why would 17/18 work with Cell when they can simply train to use their natural ki to rival him? There is nothing that even says these other universes can wish anyone or bring anyone back from an after life since the wish orbs are only contained in Uni7 and theee Super ones in Uni6. There is nothing that's says powerful warriors are even dead in these other universes where there have been no planet trade, Buu unsealing, and Cell games. So yeah you have no drift or point, no actual basis for what you are saying. If Krillin can run past his old limits with a forest visit, then others can surpass theirs. Roshi has a suit Goku calls heavy. 17 is shown using human ki. Gohan has Mystic powers Old Kai awoke for him and as a hybrid ssj rage is possible. Vegeta showed he could raise his level like that in the black arc with Dendes Time Chamber. Goku has kaioken. Tien will likely pull tribesmen out his butt and we know Piccolo can fight base Gohan evenly whih he couldn't when Tagoma came. Buu is Buu as we see him smiling and able to speak full sentences now. Plus they still have Whis to train them be it in his chamber or the staff. Who said they needed dragon balls to wish the dead back? Zeno can simply ask for them to return to the living world for the tournament then go back. He doesn't have to bring them back to life permanently. I'm gone say this again I'm talking about all the universes dead fighters not just goku universe. Duh. And anybody can stronger. If they don't allow the dead fighters to fight that doesn't mean goku or who ever win is truly better. Because that universe can have a either that's strong as goku or beeurs for all we know. But they could be dead. A good example is when goku was dead doing the buu arc. But he still got stronger right? There may not be a stronger dead fighter that's dead for goku universe. But it can be the total opposite for a different universe. So the dead deserve to fight as well. That's how you see what that universe is truly capable of bottom line buddy😏 Like you can't tell me that out of 11 universes they don't have a really strong dead warrior. Goku universe is not the only ones puting down strong foes. They can simply call forward the strong fighters in the afterlife like they did for vegeta doing the buu arc. Which mean no dragon balls are needed. Edited by Amerson26, Feb 14 2017, 09:22 AM.



+ Pointer	Feb 14 2017, 10:49 AM Post #21
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Because it would lead to nowhere. Cell Dabura , initial buu were the top dogs. And they would be wrecked easily by base goku at this point. In super base vegeta >> ssj3 gotenks Edited by Pointer, Feb 14 2017, 10:49 AM.



Kblo247	Feb 14 2017, 11:17 AM Post #22
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Goku couldn't even remain in the living world with a dead body because ssj3 broke the laws of how much power could be generated in that realm for that body type. Ssj3 Buu arc power isn't that amazing, so how much would a dead warrior be worth? Edited by Kblo247, Feb 14 2017, 11:18 AM.



Amerson26	Feb 14 2017, 11:36 AM Post #23
Posts: 1,872 Group: Member Member #12,191 Joined: March 29, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime dragon ball z What Browser do you use? dragon ball z Favourite Manga dragon ball z	Kblo247 Feb 14 2017, 11:17 AM Goku couldn't even remain in the living world with a dead body because ssj3 broke the laws of how much power could be generated in that realm for that body type. Ssj3 Buu arc power isn't that amazing, so how much would a dead warrior be worth? If vegeta can push past the ssj 3 power scale. I'm sure the dead have that same potential as well. And that's because goku had day on earth. While vegeta could stay unit buu was killed. So all zeno have to do is bring them back just like they did vegeta doing buu arc. And if they was to used up power on earth or out side the dead world they wouldn't dare come take the either from zeno tournament. So either way as long as zeno is involved it's very possible to get those fighters in the tournament at they full power. Soo yeah lol (;



Amerson26	Feb 14 2017, 11:41 AM Post #24
Posts: 1,872 Group: Member Member #12,191 Joined: March 29, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime dragon ball z What Browser do you use? dragon ball z Favourite Manga dragon ball z	Pointer Feb 14 2017, 10:49 AM Because it would lead to nowhere. Cell Dabura , initial buu were the top dogs. And they would be wrecked easily by base goku at this point. In super base vegeta >> ssj3 gotenks Oookay but that may not be the case in the other 11 universes. For the other 11 universes they dead fighters could be above ssj blue goku for all we know. So how would that lead to nothing? Edited by Amerson26, Feb 14 2017, 03:08 PM.



StrenuousSpider	Feb 16 2017, 06:54 AM Post #25
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Living fighters only is good for me. We could ask the same question of why the other timelines cant join. Using other timelines is more OPed then the dead. a team of ssb gokus lol. But if one is allowed then the other should since they are all apart of the same universe. On a side note technically future zeno is the original.



Amerson26	Feb 16 2017, 10:28 AM Post #26
Posts: 1,872 Group: Member Member #12,191 Joined: March 29, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime dragon ball z What Browser do you use? dragon ball z Favourite Manga dragon ball z	StrenuousSpider Feb 16 2017, 06:54 AM Living fighters only is good for me. We could ask the same question of why the other timelines cant join. Using other timelines is more OPed then the dead. a team of ssb gokus lol. But if one is allowed then the other should since they are all apart of the same universe. On a side note technically future zeno is the original. That makes no sense that would make everything confusion. There will be no used to going to different timelines and getting the same person. If they trying pick someone up because they dead in that timeline they can simply just pick them up from the afterlife. Plus time traveling is against the a rules. That's a big deal for the gods and zeno. So that wouldn't get approval. I see no problem in afterlife fighters fight then go back to the afterlife after the tournament is done. That's if they win. Fighters in the afterlife>same fighters from different time lines One figher I think that could be usedful is captain ginyu. He can just take every fighter body that's stronger then him. Edited by Amerson26, Feb 16 2017, 10:43 AM.



FollowtheLeader	Feb 16 2017, 08:27 PM Post #27
Posts: 1,653 Group: Member Member #7,064 Joined: December 12, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Manga Berserk	Have the bad guys fight with the good guys to save their existence due to Goku's idiotic blunder? You're asking too much from Toei writers.



Norc Groose	Feb 17 2017, 02:04 AM Post #28
Posts: 208 Group: Member Member #11,840 Joined: November 18, 2014 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z/Yu Yu Hakusho Favourite Manga Beserk	FollowtheLeader Feb 16 2017, 08:27 PM Have the bad guys fight with the good guys to save their existence due to Goku's idiotic blunder? You're asking too much from Toei writers. It's not so much asking much from Toei, it's that some of the common choices like Frieza or Boo doesn't make sense. Then there are other choices and then there's really no reason to bring back other villains.



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